ThayerBrown

It is Victorian in its source. And it does have to be modified to avoid the serious injury concern and there has to be a understanding with the Mistress as to proceeding with care. But it is quite effective. A single "switch" can be used, so that it stings horribly but does not cut. When you have stepped the ladder and your feet are tied, your bottom is sticking out, and all sensitive parts are completely exposed and you are helpless. It brings pleas for mercy immediately. It fits is well with another favorite of mine--the victim is told that pleas for mercy are not permitted. The only way the Mistress will consider backing off is if you say "More Please." If you beg, you get more punishment. If you say "More, Please" and she does back off, you ask why and she says because you said"More Please" and that is what she is doing. Or if you say, it hurts, she says, "Yes thats the point" Or she can say " You asked for this. I am just doing what you wanted" and then make you agree to the fact you asked for it.

I have done it as my posts state. It works if you are able to acknowledge that the one you are answering to is acting in your best interest, you can honestly describe to him/her what you are trying to improve , and are willing to describe to him/her what punishment is really punishment and what is your fetish. The difference being that if ( for example) you have a fetish that is satisfied by spanking, then you need to discuss honestly with the person helping you how much further it must be pushed to make it turn into punishment. The fetish will drive you to the session, and the agreement will make certain that it will in the end turn into real punishment. As things move into punishment, the dialogue between you and the one you are answering to will dramatically change.

I read about it in a compilation of a Victorian periodical entitled "The Pearl". If you are interested, you can find it on Wikisource . Volumes 1-10 contain a serial story entitled "Miss Coote's Confession." The story line centers around birching and whipping with a switch. Volume 8 of the story describes the whipping of a woman and towards the end introduces stepping the ladder. Each volume of the story is well written for those interested. In the context of a session with a Dom, it takes a lot of trust and understanding between (or among) the participants.

I have heard about this method of punishment only once. It works like this: The ladder is a ladder that can be braced and secured to a wall. The victim is tied to the ladder. The victim's hands are tied to a rung of the ladder, facing the wall, so that he/she is on tiptoes and his/her back and ass are facing the Corrector. The victim is then reminded that after each blow of a birch switch he/she must climb one step of the ladder. Since his/her hands are tied, each step makes his/her bottom stick out more and more. If the victim's feet are spread apart as he/she climbs, it eventually exposes more tender areas. Once the climbing is stopped, his/ her feet are tied to the rung to which he/she climbed. As a result, the victim's most sensitive parts are presented for switching with no way to avoid the blows. There are some obvious dangers. The attachment of ladder must be strong enough to withstand the full body weight of the victim in his/her bent stature. The instrument for the whipping cannot be too damaging given the areas that will be beat. A switch is best, I think, because it really hurts, the strokes can be delivered with great speed, and it does not even approach the damage that a paddle, leather whip, or rubber hose can cause. The position is obviously humiliating. The punishment is unavoidable. The Corrector and the victim need to have a discussion about why the victim is looking for this and must develop a trust in the Corrector, not only that he/she will fulfill the victims real desire but also that he/she will not stop until that desire is satisfied. In other words, chemistry, understanding and empathy must be there for both. I would appreciate anyone's views on this.

This might not be completely responsive. The word play that I find most effective goes like this in terms of showing submission First, opposites. For example, if I say "Please stop." the response I get is " What did you say?". My answer has to be "More please" And the response I hear is "That's what I thought. You want more ,right?" to which I say "yes" and what I hear back is " I thought so. We both understand. You want me to do it more and I want to. We will do it more." Works for any pleading. "Not so deep." "Not so hard" "Not there please"( when you are torturing or about to torture a particular body part). "Not that whip." Etc. Second, its all my doing. Me; "Please , mercy" I hear "I don't understand. You asked me to do this, Right." to which I say 'Yes" and then I hear "Because you wanted it, right?" "yes". "Because its good for you, right?" 'Yes.' "Say it. Say its good for you" " Its good for me " " Good That's what I thought. Lets get back back to work." Third, simplification when there is a failure. I hear " I don't understand. I told you not to move when I whipped your bottom hole. But you moved.' I say " I can't help it. It hurts. " to which I hear " Of course it hurts. But I told you I was going to do it. All you had to do is not move. Simple, right?" "Yes". "So you knew you weren't to move. And you did anyhow. Sounds like you deliberately disobeyed." "I couldn't help it" " Really, was it a twitch? I don't think so. You voluntarily moved. Now lets do it 10 more times. Don't move. Its easy." Fourth, putting blame were blame belongs. I say " Ouch that really hurt." I hear " I bet it did. That was a really hard whip stroke right on the underside of the tip of your penis. Its very tender there." I say, "No I mean it really hurt. I hear "Yes I heard you. Sounds like personal problem to me. Its your problem. Not mine . Don't you agree? I mean, my part of this is to teach you discipline. Of course it hurts. That sounds like your personal problem, yes? " 'Yes" 'Good we are on the same page. Let's do it again" Fifth, the extent of the punishment is up to me.. I hear "Well you failed. Want to give it another shot?" I say "Yes." I hear "OK, we were whipping your cock, balls and bottom hole 10 times. You weren't supposed to move, but you did. So how many should we do it on the do over? " Me; "Can it be 10 again?" " No thats not fair to me. I already won. I would rather go on to the ultimate punishment , if nothing is in it for me. " "How about 15?" 'Only 15. How about 20? I could do 20. Maybe not. I like 25. How about 25? You know if you make it, there is no ultimate punishment. That means you will avoid 50 strokes on those tender parts with you tied up, unable to move or avoid them." "OK 25" "You think you can hold still for 25?" "Yes. I think so" "Ok then we have to agree on the ultimate punishment. What should it be?" "The same?" "Well then we are wasting time I already have the 50. That does me no good." " Ok lets stop where we are, then ." " Too late for that. We have already agreed to the initial 25. So we have to set the ultimate punishment. What do you think? 25 more?" "OK 25" Because you think you can really not move so there will be no ultimate punishment, right?" " Right. " " I do too . But I have a couple of problems. First, I have three places to concentrate on and I can't divide 25 by 3 and I don't like that. Has to be at least 28. 7 on each part. Is that OK? " "OK". " Good. So I ike that fact its divided by 3. But it's kinda low, especially since you are pretty confident about you winning and not having any ultimate punishment at all. I kinda like 102. That's divisible by 3. Let's do that. You are confident. Ok?" "OK". Good now how about the initial 25?" " What about it?" "I can't divide it by 3". "No you picked it." "I know but we are firming things up now." 'No, we have already agreed to it." " OK. You are right. The 25 will be delivered on the underside of the tip of your penis. " "What?" "You heard me. Now lie down, roll back so you are balanced on your shoulders and the underside of your penis is exposed and lets get to it" "That's not fair. " I never said I was fair. I didn't agree to that." " Ok 29 not 25. 7 on each place. " " No. Sorry. 36 and I promise it will only be 12 on each spot. I will be gentle." " Ok" 'Good, then its done. Go lean over the chair and hold your cheeks apart. We will do your bottom hole and your balls first. That's good. Nice and exposed. By the way before we start , and now we are all agreed, I want you to prepare yourself. You gave me such a hard time, I am thinking that I will do most of the ultimate punishment strokes on your cock. The underside. I was thinking this. That I would tie you up bent over so your ass and your balls are well exposed. Then I will invite whoever is free in to watch. Then I could do, say 9 on your asshole and 9 on your balls. Leaving 84 for your cock and maybe some really hard uppercuts on your balls. One of my friends will be taking pictures. "

To continue. I have to be on my hands and knees when I am cleaning the floors of my apartment. Bathrooms and the kitchen are cleaned with a toothbrush. Everything must be cleaned. Water is always running so I can hear it. I have to shower as usual. Exercise as usual. etc. It works. It is humiliating and difficult, but worth it. I am wondering if any of your experts can think of anything that might augment it.

To continue. In order to insure that I am really trying to do my best there is a particular exercise that I have found to be useful. Again, I am not required to succeed , but simply to show improvement and to remind me of the difficulty of succeeding. I am doing this now under the direction of my hypnotist. One day every two weeks ( which usually turns out to be Saturday), I am not allowed to pee when I wake up. I am required to drink coffee water, etc as I usually do. Except I must drink at least one cup of liquid per hour. I am also required to stay naked when in my apartment. And I am forbidden from voluntarily peeing. If there are drips or squirts, I have to deal with it. But when the time comes that I am really going to fail, I have to dress and go out on the streets and fail there so it is obvious to a close observer. Once I get back, I have to strip again and drink two cups of water and it begins again. It ends at 24 hours from when I woke up. The one thing that is completely forbidden is peeing in a toilet. During the day, I am required to clean my apartment.

I have used this method repeatedly. It is very effective if both the client and the counselor understand each other. I am happy to share what I have learned. On the physical plain, this has worked with me under the influence of a hypnotist and with a very close friend of mine. The major command is no orgasm is allowed until the counselor grants permission. This is driven home by a command to edge repeatedly everyday to remind myself what I will be able to enjoy again when I succeed. It requires a high degree of control. The second stage is defining the goals in detail and establishing a method to record success and failure. Success is not rewarded. Failure is punished. Two punishments work particularly good for me. I suspect this is quite personalized. For me, the first punishment is whipping or paddling.