Jung's Jewboy

I hadn't seen this before. Loved that guy! He had that kind of golf sportscaster monotone. It mitigates whatever you might say.

Good question. On the surface doesn't seem worthwhile. I do think that its a pattern developed early in my interactions that was likely frustrating as it became clear that service would not guarantee requited interest but rather than abandon that approach I took the easy (?) path, well the familiar one, and eroticized my ambivalence. Downside of that is, of course, that once you get off on being frustrated and thwarted that kind of becomes a permanent 'neural pathway'. So, may I pick up your dry cleaning? LOL

As always, your comments are probing and insightful. Some of those platonic friendships ended because they arose from a shared context - work, school, geography etc. So, one could say they weren't DEEP friendships I suppose but I felt they were at the time. You are spot on in terms of my narcissism playing a role in my friendships where I felt used. It took me a while to own my role in creating the monster! If you go out of your way to be at someones beck and call you can hardly complain when they come to rely on that and ultimately expect it. In a way, these narcissists were giving me exactly what they perceived I needed. They were good friends in that they were responsive to my need to serve. I think there will always be elements of this dynamic in my relationships with women. My most long-term platonic friendship with a woman started that way but evolved as we evolved as people.

The universal language of female dominance. The great thing about French donned is that foot worship tastes the same with shoes or not. Yes, a stereotype but one I found to be true.

Oh dear, Manpeach. I am so dating myself by getting your TV show reference. But then, alas, dating myself is something I'm all too familiar with.

I'm already pleased that you are pleased which is a definite sign that I'm coming back around. GULP.

I guess my thought is that that wasn't her question but since you posed it I will comment. I guess for me I wouldn't be able to have a platonic relationship with a Roman I was strongly attracted to That being said, if we were so compatible in so many ways and platonic was the only option she offered I might be able to make it work for me. If we were intimate friends she would undoubtedly know my psychological/sexual makeup and perhaps I could be her chaste worshipful submissive BFF. If it couldn't be tweaked like that I'm not sure it could work.

OMG those pics. a teutonic goddess and a walking embodiment of every Jewish boys most furtive fantasies! OK, not every boys. Ok, mine. Happy now?!

I may be wrong but I think it's fair to say that Fortress staff are probably not a representative sample of women at large as far as this question goes. I can imagine most people in their circles and outside of them are drawn to them in a way that makes a platonic relationship challenging.

I got the '2 x 4 with rusty nails at one end'. Nahhhhh, the Hitachi Magic Wand.

Was that really what MJK was asking? I don't think she was asking about friends who are essentially celibate couples. Not clear how you took that away from her query!

I am confused by the question. When you say 'if attracting sexual preferences exist' are you asking can one have a platonic relationship exist if you are attracted to the other person. My friendships with women have run the gamut. I have and have had long term friendships with women. Some I have been attracted to and some not. In cases where I have harbored an attraction there were times it was manageable and times that it became too hard to manage (NPI). In the latter case there were instances where the woman definitely worked me good. Be careful what you wish for and what you are attracted to! When you are a submissive by nature and attracted to narcissistic women it can be a recipe for frustration - which is its own reward. LOL. In short, it is possible and I have been lucky enough to enjoy friendships with women.

Hmmmm. Brings up some compelling role play scenarios for me LOL.

OK. Resolutions abandoned. Can't believe I kept it going for 6 days!!

Oops. Screwed up prior reply. Well, the image you found Ms Kang illustrates the most appropriate and productive use of chopsticks. They can be used to secure PIN numbers from subs resisting financial domination. I know you are not a fan of that practice but I do find it fascinating so it's just as well that I haven't won the lottery LOL.